Speaker 1: Welcome to the ASHPOfficial podcast, your  guide to issues related to medication use, public health, and the profession of  pharmacy.
Raniah A.: 
Thank you for joining us for Therapeutics  Thursdays podcast. This podcast provides an opportunity to listen in as a  member to sit down to discuss what's new and ongoing in the world of  therapeutics. My name is Raniah Aljadeed, an emergency medicine  pharmacist at King Saud University Medical City in Saudi Arabia. And I'll be  your host today for the ASHP Therapeutic Thursdays podcast. With me today is  Dr. Rachel Schult, a toxicology clinical pharmacy specialist and assistant  professor at the University of Rochester Medical Center in Rochester, New York.  Thanks for joining us today, Rachel.
Raniah A.: 
Let's get started talking about today's  topics, buprenorphine for opioid use disorder. So Rachel, in the past, when our  patients suffer from opioid withdrawal, we would normally manage those patients  with clonidine and gabapentin. Why is buprenorphine now being used instead?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Yeah, that's a great question. So buprenorphine  for, hopefully most people understand what buprenorphine is, but for those that  don't, it is a partial mu opioid receptor agonist, which means that it works at  the opioid receptors like most other opioids do. What's different about buprenorphine  compared to other opioid agonists is that it is a partial agonist. So with  partial agonism, what we see is that it actually sort of has a ceiling effect.  So whereas a medication like morphine, when you give higher and higher doses,  there's no ceiling to the effects that we see from it, including analgesia,  respiratory depression, most importantly.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Buprenorphine actually usually does hit a  ceiling, especially for respiratory depression. So for most patients who are  tolerant on opioids, administering something like buprenorphine is very  unlikely to cause respiratory depression in those patients, even at very high  doses. Obviously there are certain things that may contribute to that. So if a  patient had other sedating medications on board, that may cause more  respiratory depression. And there's certainly people who are not opioid  tolerant, like young children, where we might see more of a risk for respiratory  depression. But in general, buprenorphine is inherently a safer opioid because  of this partial agonist effect.
Raniah A.: 
Can you give us a brief overview of the  evidence behind the effectiveness of the buprenorphine?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Absolutely. So there is actually a great  Cochrane review about this that looks at buprenorphine for the use of treating  opioid withdrawal in particular. And for opioid withdrawal, when compared  specifically to clonidine and lofexidine, which are both central alpha-2 agonists,  and so really traditionally what was used for symptomatic control of opioid  withdrawal, buprenorphine is superior to clonidine or lofexidine. The other  medication that it has been compared to in several studies is methadone, which  we know that methadone is another medication very commonly used for treatment  of opioid use disorder and withdrawal. And what we see when comparing it to methadone  is that it appears to work similarly, so has similar efficacy to methadone.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
There was some mention in that Cochrane review  that sort of suggests that potentially buprenorphine may resolve symptoms  quicker or may produce a different pattern of withdrawal, but they're not  really able to use the data that we have to say that it is actually superior to  methadone in that regard. So really when you're looking at medications to treat  opioid withdrawal, it appears that buprenorphine or methadone really should be  the treatment of choice for management of opioid withdrawal and do better than  sort of our traditional symptomatic agents for control.
Raniah A.: 
So it seems like buprenorphine can be even  more effective option for managing acute opioid withdrawal  in the ED. Now, Rachel, which patient would  you say are the strongest candidates for buprenorphine [inaudible 00:04:00] induction  in the ED?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Well, I really think that we need to think  about the use of buprenorphine in the ED in a couple of different ways. So I  think patients that are presenting to the emergency department in opioid  withdrawal, the most effective agent to manage that would be something like buprenorphine  or methadone. Now in the US when we're thinking about sort of the legality of  this, buprenorphine and methadone, when you're using something, an opioid in  particular for the management of opioid withdrawal, those are really only the  two agents that would be available legally to treat that.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Most patients will have other complaints such  as pain or other things like that where you may be able to get away with using  another indication for a full opioid agonist. But really technically when we're  thinking about the legality of this, using a medication that is approved for  the use of opioid use disorder, like buprenorphine or methadone is preferred.  So usually when I'm thinking about this or explaining this to other people, I  like to try and get the point across that a patient is presenting to the emergency  department with a medical complication and that we should be treating that with  the most effective agents that we can for that medical disorder.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
And so opioid withdrawal is absolutely a  medical complaint that patients will present to the emergency department for.  And the most effective things that we have to treat that is Buprenorphine or  Methadone. I think where things kind of get different is when you actually are  looking through the evidence for using buprenorphine in the ED. Most of the  studies that are out there are really describing programs that are buprenorphine  induction programs. So essentially using the ED as a point of access to further  treatment, which is fantastic. So using the emergency department as a frontline  area where you can get patients started on buprenorphine and then refer them  for more permanent follow-up care thereafter.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
I think what is challenging with a lot of  those studies is that they're not necessarily generalizable to the everyday  emergency departments out there. So most of these studies are done in large  academic centers that have direct affiliation with a substance abuse treatment  program where they can directly refer their patients to afterwards. So a lot of  these patients will come to the ED, they can be started on buprenorphine and  then they will have direct access, either pretty quick follow-up within a day.  But most of these studies suggest that they are following up with these  programs within 72 hours to be continued for treatment.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
In a lot of those different studies, they'll  report different numbers such as treatment retention at 30 days or 60 days,  which are great outcomes to show that if you are able to establish a program  like this, that this appears to be highly effective to give buprenorphine in  the emergency department and link patients to a program for follow-up. I think  that that is the ideal, but it's also hard to do in especially some of these  smaller community emergency departments that may not have direct access to one  of these programs. So I really think that the bottom line is if a patient  presents to the emergency department in withdrawal, the best way to treat them  is with buprenorphine.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
And then while taking into consideration the  resources that are available in the community of that particular emergency  department, it is also probably ideal if there is some way to get these  patients into formal treatment for their substance use disorder.
Raniah A.: 
What about the dose, Rachel for buprenorphine?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
There's  a lot of different ways that this has been dosed in studies. I guess I will  sort of speak to our experience here at our emergency department because I feel  that's what I'm most comfortable with. Typically what we do, so because  buprenorphine is a partial agonist, there is the potential that it can actually  precipitate withdrawal in patients who still have full opioid agonists onboard.  So what that means is essentially if you have a full opioid agonist onboard,  let's say their treatment, the level of their opioid effect is at 100, if you  administer something like buprenorphine that's giving, say an opioid effect of  50 you're bringing that patient down to a 50 because Buprenorphine has very  high receptor affinity for that mu opioid receptor, and typically we'll kick  off most other opioids that we use or see therapeutically.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
So the potential for precipitating opioid  withdrawal is a concern. Typically our practice tends to be pretty conservative  in that we try to avoid this. I mean, a lot of times patients who experience  precipitated withdrawal really have a bad taste in their mouth for buprenorphine  afterwards. And while we oftentimes discuss how opioid withdrawal in general is  not a life threatening condition, precipitated opioid withdrawal absolutely can  be because if you give a big catecholamine surge to a group of patients who  have medical comorbidities that put them at higher risk, this is essentially  the concern that we will have in these patients.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
There are certainly case reports out there of  patients with precipitated myocardial infarction or different complications  like that associated with this catecholamine surge of precipitated withdrawal.  So typically what we do at our practice is to start with a low test dose and we  usually will start with 2 mg sublingual and then if the patient doesn't have  any signs of precipitated withdrawal after that, about one hour later we will  administer an 8 mg dose. Another option that we also use in our practice and is  mostly reported out of California is this option for providing additional  higher doses of Buprenorphine for patients.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
So in our practice, we usually recommend up to  a 16 mg dose thereafter so that the patient would be receiving about a total  dose of 24 mg. But there are reports of patients getting 32 mg or even higher  potentially, which we think is really just going to have the added benefit of  providing a patient with a longer duration of withdrawal treatment so that they  could potentially have that longer period of time to get into a chemical  dependency treatment program. What's also great about that is that having that  much buprenorphine on board is very protective for patients. So even if they  were to leave the hospital and use heroin, it's likely that they would not  overdose on that.
Raniah A.: 
Interesting. Who can prescribe buprenorphine?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Great question. And so this is really one of  the ways that we kind of get hung up on how to start some of these programs in  the US. In the United States we have something that's called the Data 2000 or X  waiver. I think everybody speaks of it in lay terminology as an X waiver. The X  waiver is essentially meaning that the provider that can write that  prescription has gone through a course that teaches them about buprenorphine and  allows them to be able to prescribe it in the United States for the indication  of opioid use disorder. So what that means is that unfortunately not every  provider in the US is able to prescribe buprenorphine to patients for opioid  use disorder.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
So one thing that is important is that when  patients come to the emergency department, you do not need to have an X waiver  to administer it in the emergency department. We have this thing called a 72-hour  rule, which essentially means that a patient can come to the ED for no more  than three days and receive buprenorphine for their treatment of opioid use  disorder. This doesn't necessarily mean an emergency department either, it just  means that somebody without an X waiver can administer buprenorphine to a  patient, not prescribe but administer to a patient for up to a period of 72  hours. The other sort of caveat here is that patients presenting to the  hospital for other medical reasons can also receive buprenorphine or methadone for  the management of their opioid use disorder.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
So we for instance, have a lot of patients  that get admitted to the hospital for infectious complications related to IV  drug use and these patients can also receive buprenorphine or methadone while  they're in the emergency department and while they're in the hospital, even  beyond that 72 hour duration because we are primarily treating other medical  complications.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
So unfortunately most ED, well, I don't know  about that, but I would say a lot of ED providers do not have a formal X waiver  so they would not be able to prescribe buprenorphine on discharge. What that  means is that if there isn't somebody in the emergency department that has that  X waiver and can give a prescription to a patient at the time of discharge  after induction, then the patient wouldn't go home with any buprenorphine and  we'd be hoping that they could get into a treatment program pretty quickly.
Raniah A.: 
I was wondering if you can give us a brief  overview about buprenorphine induction in the ED and also with MAT at  your institution?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Sure. So I work on a busy medical toxicology  consult service and so our service sees not only the traditional drug overdose  patients that a lot of toxicology services will see, but we also do a lot with  addiction and withdrawal. So I did talk about previously how we see a lot of  patients in our institution that are admitted for sort of infectious  complications of IV drug use and we will follow them and get them started on buprenorphine  and try to refer them to treatment after the hospital stay.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Our service also does get consulted on  patients that are in the emergency department and will see those that are in  acute withdrawal and sort of help them get set up with treatment if we are  available. Unfortunately this is sort of a time permitting service because  obviously the emergency department will be concerned with how long the patient  needs to be in the ED and how long until we are able to see that patient. And  so some of those barriers may mean that we don't see every patient.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
So what we ended up doing a few years ago, we  rolled out a smart ED opioid program, which really was our goal with that  program was to reduce overall opioid use in the emergency department, but we  also had formal documents and recommendations for the management of opioid  withdrawal in the ED. And so for that we recommended the use of a buprenorphine  induction in patients that were presenting in opioid withdrawal. So by  providing that 2 mg dose and then if tolerated, giving an 8 mg dose and if both  of those were tolerated, we also added the additional option of giving a higher  dose load to hopefully provide patients with longer duration of withdrawal  relief to allow them to sort of get into other clinics.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Unfortunately, we don't have a program that is  formally set up with our chemical dependency treatment program to kind of get  patients in quickly. But a nice thing that's available in our community is that  a lot of treatment programs in the area actually offer walk-in hours. So every  day of the week there is a program that will offer walking hours for immediate  access to buprenorphine, meaning that you can go to that clinic that day  without an appointment, walk in, get an intake and get buprenorphine at that  time.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
And so that's been the way that we've been  trying sort of refer patients to treatment. We will start them in the emergency  department on buprenorphine, give them enough doses in the emergency department  to hopefully take care of their withdrawal for an extended period of time and  then provide them with information and resources about how to get into a next  day walk-in hours at a buprenorphine clinic.
Raniah A.: 
So what would you say is our role as a  pharmacists, when we have a patient [inaudible 00:15:18] about to initiate buprenorphine  in the ED?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
As a pharmacist, there's a lot of different  things that we can do. While it might be challenging to really formally set up  some of these agreements with, if you have a medication assisted treatment  provider that is affiliated with your institution, it may be hard to sort of as  a pharmacist set up those agreements. But I think being a champion for that and  finding sort of physician colleagues that can also be champions for that is a  great way to get started.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
If a patient is presenting to the emergency  department in acute opioid withdrawal, I think the first step again is going to  be really showing the evidence that the use of buprenorphine is superior to  that of symptomatic treatment alone and that this is a patient presenting with  a medical condition that we can treat effectively in the ED, whether or not you  have a formal program set up to get patients into a treatment program. People  that are looking for a great project to work on with this, it's absolutely  reasonable to call around to different treatment programs in the area and see  what kind of services they provide.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
If any of them provide rapid access to  treatment or if any of them provide walk-in hours such as we see here, and then  getting together some sort of document that you can give out to patients with  that information. I think the most important thing is that we're able to  provide patients with symptomatic relief when they come to the emergency  department and also give them enough resources that they're able to follow up  if they're interested in treatment.
Raniah A.: 
Awesome. One last question before we wrap up.  I've heard some talk about buprenorphine being used as a substitute for naloxone  in opioid overdose patients. Can you tell us your thoughts about that?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Yeah. So there was recently a paper that  looked at comparing the use of naloxone versus a couple of different doses of buprenorphine  for reversal of opioid overdose. I think it is a very interesting idea. Now the  idea here is that we're probably giving this to patients who are dependent on  opioids. So it's actually pretty rare that we're going to see patients  presenting with an opioid overdose who aren't dependent on opioids. It happens  probably more likely in kids, but it's pretty rare.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
And so this study is essentially going off of  the idea that this will be probably a more gentle reversal. So instead of naloxone,  which is a pure antagonist and taking their opioid effect down to zero, we  would potentially be giving them something that might just bring their opioid  activity down just enough to kind of wake them up. So the study was super  interesting in that they compared the naloxone and randomized patients to  either naloxone or two different doses of buprenorphine.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
And really what they were reporting is that  the patients that received the buprenorphine did really well, had very good  responses to it and actually had less precipitated withdrawal than what we saw  in the naloxone arm. One of the things that I caution readers in that paper is  that one of the ways that they described how they were administering naloxone was  referring to the Goldfrank’s chapter on it. And they also said that they would  administer 2 mg IV to a person who is apneic. Now, in my opinion, that dose is  too high, even if a patient is apneic.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Now typically our recommendation in the  emergency department is for a patient that is not breathing, we would still  provide assisted ventilation via a bag valve mask and then also provide low  doses of naloxone to sort of gradually reverse that opioid overdose. If you  provide a patient with a really large dose of naloxone, you're very likely to  see precipitated withdrawal symptoms, and I am sort of cautious in interpreting  that data that I feel like the high levels of withdrawal that they saw in those  patients may potentially have just been related to the high doses of naloxone they  were potentially using.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
Now they don't give us a lot of data about how  much they actually used in the patients that receive naloxone, but just in the  way they discussed their protocol, I was concerned about how much naloxone those  patients could be receiving. But super interesting that a lot of the patients  in the buprenorphine arm seemed to get really great reversal while also not  having that much withdrawal symptoms. I think obviously there's some bias risks  there because this was not a blinded study, but certainly something that  warrants more investigation. Another thing, there's been a lot of different  case reports out there talking about how do we get patients started on  buprenorphine earlier? So a lot of these things that we're talking about today  is a patient presents to the emergency department in opioid withdrawal, but  what do we do for patients who are coming in with overdose?
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
And in that population it's going to be a lot  different trying to get them on to buprenorphine. So if a patient presents in overdose,  they receive naloxone, is there a way to seamlessly get them onto buprenorphine  while they're in the ED? So there are some case reports out there that look at  patients who have withdrawal that is induced on naloxone, so have a COWS score  or a clinical opiate withdrawal scale score that is high enough that means that  we're seeing some withdrawal symptoms in the patient, and then at that point  administering buprenorphine to them.
Dr. Rachel Schult: 
I could find about two case reports on it. I  think there are probably more people out there doing it than those two case  reports. But that's also an interesting idea. So just kind of thinking about  how we can quickly get patients that are interested on it, even after an opioid  overdose. Because the alternative there is really another potential program  which admitted patients to a clinical decision unit or emergency observation  unit so that there could be enough time that passes from their last use of an  opioid to get them started on buprenorphine.
Raniah A.: 
That's all the time we have today. I want to  thank Rachel for joining us today to discuss buprenorphine for opioid use  disorder. Join us here every Thursday where we will be talking with ASHP member  contact matter experts on variety of clinical topics. Thank you, everyone.
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